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bespeak and bespoke

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:36 am
by MTC
"Bespoke," the past tense of the verb "bespeak" has a secret life as an adjective meaning custom-made (especially re clothes), or make and sell custom clothes, as in "a bespoke tailor."

Dr. Goodword might want to explain how this adjective escaped its orbit into an entirely new life.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:22 am
by Slava
The Dr.'s 2007 treatment is here: http://www.alphadictionary.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2273

Another worthy link is this one from the BBC.

Bespokes vs. Ready-mades

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:19 pm
by Dr. Goodword
I don't see the semantics that much askew. We may bespeak plane reservations, simply meaning to book ahead. Bespoke clothes, shoes, etc. are simply those which have been bespoken. That leaves the question of why they are not bespokens. But then past tenses and participles are frequently confused.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:30 pm
by damoge
why no mention of "bespoke sandwiches"? I have seen them advertized all over London...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:01 pm
by Slava
why no mention of "bespoke sandwiches"? I have seen them advertized all over London...
Flashback:

"Hold the pickles,
Hold the lettuce,
Special orders
Don't upset us."

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:09 pm
by damoge
Wonderful! thanks for the giggle of the day!