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abrogate
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:40 am
by RobertsJJ
Since
obviate was one of the last Good Words, I thought a nice comparison to
abrogate would be in order, though perhaps there is no need
(sorry, I had to say it).
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:06 am
by Perry
Maybe Brazilan dude can tell us if there is any relationship between abrogate and obrigado (thank you). Maybe this comes together when no thanks are necessary?
So sue me. I'm a bit rusty! LOL
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:42 am
by Brazilian dude
Nah, I don't think there's any relationship. Obrigado is the past participle of the verb obrigar (to oblige, to obligate), Latin ob-ligare (to tie/bind around). Abrogate (Pt abrogar) comes from Latin ab-rogare (to pray/ask away), so I don't think so.
Brazilian dude
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:05 pm
by frank
Maybe Brazilan dude can tell us if there is any relationship between abrogate and obrigado (thank you). Maybe this comes together when no thanks are necessary?
There is a relationship between Pt. '(muito) obrigado' and Eng. '(much) obliged', and both are derived from the same word.
Portuguese has quite a few instances of l <> r, as in escravo (Lat. sclavus), praça (VLat. plattea), etc. Other l <> r changes only affect some dialect areas, and l <> r also features in comic book(let)s as the Cebolinha series ("Este é o meu blinquedo plefelido").
Flank
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:24 pm
by Brazilian dude
Frank, read more closely:
Maybe Brazilan dude can tell us if there is any relationship between abrogate and obrigado (thank you).
Brazilian dude
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:09 pm
by frank
Frank, read more closely:
any relationship between abrogate and obrigado (thank you).
I thought the reply implied a clear and loud no to any kind of perceived relationship between the two words suggested above
.
F
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:28 pm
by Perry
Frank, read more closely:
any relationship between abrogate and obrigado (thank you).
I thought the reply implied a clear and loud no to any kind of perceived relationship between the two words suggested above
.
F
I agree with BD. The fact that you discuss a relationship between two other words does not automatically imply that you had ruled the two other words to be unrelated.
BTW, what is the Arabic or Farsi script in your signature?
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:43 am
by frank
I agree with BD. The fact that you discuss a relationship between two other words does not automatically imply that you had ruled the two other words to be unrelated.
I thought it to be obvious. My apologies...
BTW, what is the Arabic or Farsi script in your signature?
لـپـتـو بـكـشـم اخ
"If i'd pull your cheek, ouch'. The story behind it involves a small but nice garden in the middle of Tehran, 40°C, my (then future) wife, and a water hose.
Frank