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overweening

Postby tcward » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:08 pm

“The overweening self-respect of conceited men relieves others from the duty of respecting them at all.”
~ Henry Ward Beecher
overweening
1340, from prp. of overwenen "be conceited, presume," from O.E. ofer-wenian, from ofer + "over" + wenian (see ween).
And for those who are interested in following the trails...
ween
O.E. wenan "to think," from P.Gmc. *woenijanan (cf. O.S. wanian, O.N. væna, O.Fris. wena, O.H.G. wanen, Ger. wähnen, Goth. wenjan "to expect, suppose, think"), from *woeniz "expectation," from PIE base *wen- "to wish, desire, strive for" (see Venus). Archaic since 17c.

Venus
O.E., from L. Venus (pl. veneres), in ancient Roman mythology, the goddess of beauty and love, especially sensual love, from venus "love, sexual desire, loveliness, beauty, charm," from PIE base *wen- "to strive after, wish, desire, be satisfied" (cf. Skt. vanas- "desire," vanati "desires, loves, wins;" Avestan vanaiti "he wishes, is victorious;" O.E. wynn "joy," wunian "to dwell," wenian "to accustom, train, wean," wyscan "to wish"). Applied by the Romans to Gk. Aphrodite, Egyptian Hathor, etc. Meaning "second planet from the sun" is attested from c.1290 (O.E. had morgensteorra and æfensteorra). The venus fly-trap (Dionæa muscipula) was discovered 1760 by Gov. Arthur Dobbs in North Carolina and description sent to Collinson in England.
I've heard "overweening" before, but just decided to look it up after reading an article, which I had intended to link to... Sadly, I must have closed it, and that was hours ago, and now I can't remember where I had read the word used. So we will have to make do with the HWB quote I offered at the opening.

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Postby gailr » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:38 pm

As opposed to underweening.

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Postby Perry » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:30 pm

Is this why some intellectuals are accused of being weenies?
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Postby Stargzer » Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:45 am

No, apparently not.

According to the Online Etymology dictionary, weenie meaning frankfurter dates from 1906, from the German wienerwurst, "Vienna sausage." The meaning of "ineffectual person" is from 1963.
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Postby Perry » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:13 pm

I may have been taking a weeliberty.
"Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once. Lately it hasn't been working."
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