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Apodictic

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:43 pm
by Audiendus
Apodictic (adjective)

1. Absolutely certain, true beyond any doubt, logically necessary.
2. Relating to something absolutely certain.

Examples:
It is an apodictic truth that 2+2=4.
Although I assume that the world is real, this is not apodictic; my whole life could be a dream.
"I think, therefore I exist" is an apodictic argument.

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:33 am
by Slava
This reminds me of the Descartesjoke posted here a couple of years back.

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:31 am
by Audiendus
Good joke. "René Descartes" literally means "born again from the cards", so he presumably reappeared.

Incidentally, Descartes is the only proper noun I can think of that starts with a different letter from its related adjective (Cartesian).

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:31 pm
by LukeJavan8
Cartesian: most interesting. I've been thinking on this
and I must concur.

apodictic

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:00 pm
by sardith
Audiendus~I just saw this word today on a word-of-the-day site, and I had a question.

Apodictic:

1. Absolutely certain, true beyond any doubt, logically necessary.

Of this #1 definition, I understand everything except the 'logically necessary' part. Could you give me an example of what that means, please.

Thanks,
Sardith :)

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:36 pm
by Perry Lassiter
In Biblical studies scholars distinguish between apodictic and casuistic. Apodictic are curt: no murder, no stealing. Casuistic law is case law. There is a difference between raping a single woman and a slave, for example, and the penalties vary.

Re: apodictic

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:37 pm
by Audiendus
Of this #1 definition, I understand everything except the 'logically necessary' part. Could you give me an example of what that means, please.
If something is logically necessary, it is true not just in this world but in all possible worlds, even imaginary ones.

For example, in the real world a person cannot live forever (it is physically necessary that they die), but it is possible to imagine or dream of a magical world in which people never die. However, "3 is more than 2" is logically necessary; it is impossible to imagine a world in which 3 is not more than 2, as the idea is incoherent.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:54 am
by Slava
For more on this concept, see Necessary and Sufficient Condition at Wikipedia. There's a decent article on these logic terms.

apodictic

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:32 pm
by sardith
Thanks, Audiendus, your explanation makes all the difference. 8)

Slava, I read the article on 'Necessary and Sufficient Condition', and am convinced that I must be more of an auditory learner on this subject. I know I am able to comprehend the material, but I am getting nowhere by reading about it. A similar thing happened when I suggested the word, 'syllogism', a while back, and a few of you tried to help me then. Harumph. :P

For now, I will get clobbered by my 'Debate Team Captain' daughter, who hits me with the, "Your argument contains faulty syllogism, Mom," retort, to which I will reply, "Because I'm the Mom, that's why!"

Enjoy your weekend,
Sardith :wink: