Page 2 of 2

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:49 pm
by Palewriter
A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?


-- PW

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:17 am
by sluggo
A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?


-- PW
Never mind the bollocks, here be vexed listers... :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:30 am
by Palewriter
here be vexed listers... :wink:
Hm...and I thought they were "lexed vis'ters". :lol:

-- PW

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:22 pm
by malachai
A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?
Thanks for stating so clearly what I was trying to say! :)

Growing Things

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:35 pm
by Dr. Goodword
Grow is just another in a growing series of words that are being transitivized. I still find it hard to swallow "graduate high school", though wait (on) tables and attend (to) those in need are beginning to sink in.

We don't seem to like prepositions, that's true.

Re: Growing Things

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:25 pm
by sluggo
Grow is just another in a growing series of words that are being transitivized. I still find it hard to swallow "graduate high school", though wait (on) tables and attend (to) those in need are beginning to sink in.

We don't seem to like prepositions, that's true.
And Doc, thanks for restating what I was saying.

As elsewhere we trap ourselves in argumentative illogic: I noted that I found certain phrases distasteful; Malachai seems to want to prove that I can't do that. Thanks for cutting to the quick.

Re: Growing Things

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:57 pm
by malachai
That was not my intention. My intention was: you don't have to like it, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.

Re: Growing Things

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:02 pm
by skinem
but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.
Are you saying now that it is wrong? :?

Re: Growing Things

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:56 pm
by sluggo
but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.
Are you saying now that it is wrong? :?
I don't think he's not saying that. Keep in mind you have to read Malachai irregardless of double negatives.

As GW Bush would say, It's hard work!

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:50 pm
by malachai
What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:37 pm
by sluggo
What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.
AGREED. Phew, we're outta here.

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:01 pm
by skinem
What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.
While I would agree that it may be normal for those speakers, I wouldn't necessarily agree that they are comprehensible.

I know, I'm a curmudgeon--sometimes willingly and purposely!

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:34 pm
by gailr
While I would agree that it may be normal for those speakers, I wouldn't necessarily agree that they are comprehensible.

I know, I'm a curmudgeon--sometimes willingly and purposely!
Let's not quibble over prefixes; change a couple letters and you've got reprehensible.

Unless those who just make it up as they go are better described as prehensible or even apprehensible? I think I'm going to K.I.S.S. and start using unhensible. Can I get a huzzah on that?

gailr

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:45 pm
by skinem
Huzzah!
(Credit where credit is deserved.)

I'll go with unhensible rather than unhinged!

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:56 am
by Perry
Huzzah and hurrah!