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just out of curiosity

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:43 pm
by Bailey
Bubba was over the other night, I noticed he drops his "L's" is this regional or pure laziness. I mean he says code for cold, hoed for hold, etc. He's "from" southern Illinois. by way of the south and originally Maine.



mark whattaya-think? Bailey

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:19 pm
by skinem
Speech impediment?

Does he drop them in words with double Ls such as Illinois, or words with sylable breaks such as Colorado?

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:37 pm
by Bailey
I know he can pronounce "L's" he just doesn't in short words, to which he usually limits himself, Oh and btw he says concreek instead of concrete, drives me crazy, but for me it's a short trip.

mark bubba-is-my-favorite-crazy-relative Bailey

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:36 pm
by Palewriter
I know he can pronounce "L's" he just doesn't in short words, to which he usually limits himself, Oh and btw he says concreek instead of concrete, drives me crazy, but for me it's a short trip.

mark bubba-is-my-favorite-crazy-relative Bailey
Sounds to me like he's dropping his "dark-Ls", i.e. Ls that appear directly before a plosive consonant. In London-English, for example, the dark-L virtually becomes a W sound: "kawd" for cold; "miwk" for milk, etc.

I don't seem to have IPA characters, or I could render what I mean more clearly.

-- PW

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:45 pm
by gailr
"Dropping dark l's" sounds ominous, but the word is still understandable. Palewriter, what is the correct term for the "l" shift my great-greats made: americanizing words like "Llewellyn"?

-gaillr :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:59 pm
by Bailey

Sounds to me like he's dropping his "dark-Ls", i.e. Ls that appear directly before a plosive consonant. In London-English, for example, the dark-L virtually becomes a W sound: "kawd" for cold; "miwk" for milk, etc.

I don't seem to have IPA characters, or I could render what I mean more clearly.

-- PW
could be PW, but he doesn't replace it with a "w" he says code, hoed, bode, instead of cold, hold, bold, etc, he does pronounce double "L's" as though good ol' Bubba believes single "L's" don't deserve any recognition. I assure you he is not cognizant of anything so complicated.
Here many with speech impediments say Bee' Oh[rapidly it is more like Bue] for Bill.

mark not-related-to-Bubba Bailey

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:27 am
by sluggo

Sounds to me like he's dropping his "dark-Ls", i.e. Ls that appear directly before a plosive consonant. In London-English, for example, the dark-L virtually becomes a W sound: "kawd" for cold; "miwk" for milk, etc.

I don't seem to have IPA characters, or I could render what I mean more clearly.

-- PW
Just show Bub' this analysis- he'll realise how much work he's doing and go back to good ol' "Korrekt" Englisch.

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:44 am
by Bailey
Bubba is my personal "cross to bear" ; 'reasoning with' and 'Bubba' in the same phrase is in oxy moron territory.

mark long-suffering Bailey

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:30 am
by Sunny

For the mark long-suffering Bailey, may I suggest a couple of quick shots before the next visit? I personally prefer iced vodka, but whatever works! :roll:

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:48 am
by Bailey
Oh NO, no booze around Bubba, if he suspects there's spirits in the house he will search and destroy, and by destroy I mean consume.

mark would-really-be-suffering Bailey