I must've known this at some point but-
where do we get the letter O in the contraction won't?
If it's from the O of not, then shall it not might could have been spelt w'not or sum'pm?
Our Sponsors
Technical TranslationDenver Colorado ArchitectWebsite TranslationCustom Silicone WristbandsClip Art
Whither went wont?
10 posts
• Page 1 of 1
Whither went wont?
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
-

sluggo - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1477
- Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:58 pm
- Location: Carolinia Agrestícia: The Forest Primeval
The apostrophe is used in writing contractions ‹ that is, shortened forms of words from which one or more letters have been omitted. In standard English, this generally happens only with a small number of conventional items, mostly involving verbs. Here are some of the commonest examples, with their uncontracted equivalents:
it's
it is or it has
we'll
we will or we shall
they've
they have
can't
can not
he'd
he would or he had
aren't
are not
she'd've
she would have
won't
will not
Note in each case that the apostrophe appears precisely in the position of the omitted letters: we write can't, not *ca'nt, and aren't, not *are'nt. Note also that the irregular contraction won't takes its apostrophe between the n and the t, just like all other contractions involving not. And note also that she'd've has two apostrophes, because material has been omitted from two positions.
That is all I could find; an explanation of the apostrophe. I could not find where the "o" came from.
"Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once. Lately it hasn't been working."
Anonymous
Anonymous
-

Perry - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 2308
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:50 am
- Location: Asheville, NC
Sluggo, according to what Gail has unearthed, your question should have been, "where did the i come from?"
will (v.)
O.E. *willan, wyllan "to wish, desire, want" (past tense wolde), from P.Gmc. *welljan (cf. O.S. willian, O.N. vilja, O.Fris. willa, Du. willen, O.H.G. wellan, Ger. wollen, Goth. wiljan "to will, wish, desire," Goth. waljan "to choose"), from PIE *wel-/*wol- "be pleasing" (cf. Skt. vrnoti "chooses, prefers," varyah "to be chosen, eligible, excellent," varanam "choosing;" Avestan verenav- "to wish, will, choose;" Gk. elpis "hope;" L. volo, velle "to wish, will, desire;" O.C.S. voljo, voliti "to will," veljo, veleti "to command;" Lith. velyti "to wish, favor," pa-vel-mi "I will," viliuos "I hope;" Welsh gwell "better"). Cf. also O.E. wel "well," lit. "according to one's wish;" wela "well-being, riches." The use as a future auxiliary was already developing in O.E. The implication of intention or volition distinguishes it from shall, which expresses or implies obligation or necessity. Contracted forms, especially after pronouns, began to appear 16c., as in sheele for "she will." The form with an apostrophe is from 17c.
will (n.)
O.E. will, willa, from P.Gmc. *weljon (cf. O.S. willio, O.N. vili, O.Fris. willa, Du. wil, O.H.G. willio, Ger. wille, Goth. wilja "will"), related to *willan "to wish" (see will (v.)). The meaning "written document expressing a person's wishes about disposition of property after death" is first recorded c.1380.
"Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once. Lately it hasn't been working."
Anonymous
Anonymous
-

Perry - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 2308
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:50 am
- Location: Asheville, NC
Perry wrote: "where did the i come from?"
You should really ask you parents that one, Per.
Though one would think you'd know by now...
Won't as derivative of wollen maketh sense to me. Vielen dank, Gailr.
(please say hey to the Minnesota Vikings, eh)
Last edited by sluggo on Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
-

sluggo - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1477
- Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:58 pm
- Location: Carolinia Agrestícia: The Forest Primeval
Perry wrote:... And note also that she'd've has two apostrophes, because material has been omitted from two positions.
I wuz thinking today that conspicuous in its absence from the above list is the you plural-possessive, if regional y'all's (and a pox on you too, o spellchucker).
And there remains an unfortunate sign that I pass regularly driving between my old and new abodes reading ya'll come (on both sides!)
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
-

sluggo - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1477
- Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:58 pm
- Location: Carolinia Agrestícia: The Forest Primeval
sluggo wrote:(please say hey to the Minnesota Vikings, eh)
Mmmmmmmmmno.
Thanks, sluggo: I borrowed the Vikingesque helmet in response to another thread, and then colored it purple & gold for giggles. I had begun to think I'd be in it forever if no one got the joke. And you're not even from Wiscaaaaaahhhnsin!
-

gailr - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1827
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:40 am
sluggo wrote:Perry wrote: "where did the i come from?"
You should really ask you parents that one, Per.
Though one would think you'd know by now...
Won't as derivative of wollen maketh sense to me. Vielen dank, Gailr.
(please say hey to the Minnesota Vikings, eh)
I have three kids of my own, and in fact do know where one comes from. BTW, in keeping with this thread, it even involves contractions.
"Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once. Lately it hasn't been working."
Anonymous
Anonymous
-

Perry - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 2308
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:50 am
- Location: Asheville, NC
Perry wrote:I have three kids of my own, and in fact do know where one comes from. BTW, in keeping with this thread, it even involves contractions.
Well said, Perry!
According to friends who have replicated, the most common ... contractions ... they remember using from your list above are:
it's ... !
can't!
aren't!
won't!
and, in reference to their sorry partners,
he's ... !
you're ... !
-gailr
Who concedes that contractions have a place, and it is far, far, far away...
-

gailr - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1827
- Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:40 am
Don't don't make da list??
I just now got it
Sehr gut, Per.
Perry wrote:... in keeping with this thread, it even involves contractions.
I just now got it
Sehr gut, Per.
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots! Knife no one, fink!
-

sluggo - Grand Panjandrum
- Posts: 1477
- Joined: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:58 pm
- Location: Carolinia Agrestícia: The Forest Primeval
10 posts
• Page 1 of 1
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests
