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Postby Palewriter » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:49 pm

A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?


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Postby sluggo » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:17 am

Palewriter wrote:A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?


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Postby Palewriter » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:30 am

here be vexed listers... :wink:


Hm...and I thought they were "lexed vis'ters". :lol:

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Postby malachai » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:22 pm

Palewriter wrote:A simple dictionary search reveals that "grow" is either transitive or intransitive. So what's all this old bollocks about, really?


Thanks for stating so clearly what I was trying to say! :)
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Growing Things

Postby Dr. Goodword » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:35 pm

Grow is just another in a growing series of words that are being transitivized. I still find it hard to swallow "graduate high school", though wait (on) tables and attend (to) those in need are beginning to sink in.

We don't seem to like prepositions, that's true.
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Re: Growing Things

Postby sluggo » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:25 pm

Dr. Goodword wrote:Grow is just another in a growing series of words that are being transitivized. I still find it hard to swallow "graduate high school", though wait (on) tables and attend (to) those in need are beginning to sink in.

We don't seem to like prepositions, that's true.


And Doc, thanks for restating what I was saying.

As elsewhere we trap ourselves in argumentative illogic: I noted that I found certain phrases distasteful; Malachai seems to want to prove that I can't do that. Thanks for cutting to the quick.
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Re: Growing Things

Postby malachai » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:57 pm

That was not my intention. My intention was: you don't have to like it, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.
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Re: Growing Things

Postby skinem » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:02 pm

but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.


Are you saying now that it is wrong? :?
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Re: Growing Things

Postby sluggo » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:56 pm

skinem wrote:
but that doesn't mean it's not wrong when other people use it.


Are you saying now that it is wrong? :?


I don't think he's not saying that. Keep in mind you have to read Malachai irregardless of double negatives.

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Postby malachai » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:50 pm

What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.
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Postby sluggo » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:37 pm

malachai wrote:What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.


AGREED. Phew, we're outta here.
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Postby skinem » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:01 pm

malachai wrote:What I wrote was confusing, wasn't it? How about: you may find certain phrases distasteful, but the fact that other people use them means that they are comprehensible and normal for those speakers.


While I would agree that it may be normal for those speakers, I wouldn't necessarily agree that they are comprehensible.

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Postby gailr » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:34 pm

skinem wrote:While I would agree that it may be normal for those speakers, I wouldn't necessarily agree that they are comprehensible.

I know, I'm a curmudgeon--sometimes willingly and purposely!

Let's not quibble over prefixes; change a couple letters and you've got reprehensible.

Unless those who just make it up as they go are better described as prehensible or even apprehensible? I think I'm going to K.I.S.S. and start using unhensible. Can I get a huzzah on that?

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Postby skinem » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:45 pm

Huzzah!
(Credit where credit is deserved.)

I'll go with unhensible rather than unhinged!
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Postby Perry » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:56 am

Huzzah and hurrah!
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