Habemus papam

[Brazilian dude]

Here's how the newly appointed Pope will be referred to in the selected languages playing in theaters near you:

In English: Benedict XVI.
In Portuguese: Bento XVI.
In Spanish: Benedicto XVI.
In Italian: Benedetto XVI.
In French: Benoît XVI.
In German/Czech: Benedikt XVI.
In Dutch/Swedish/Latin: Benedictus XVI.
In Romanian: Benedict al XVI-lea.
In Macedonian/Russian/Ukrainian: Бенедикт XVI.
In Polish: Benedykt XVI.
In Japanese: ベネディクト１６世
In Greek: Βενέδικτος ο ΙΣΤ.

Brazilian dude

[Garzo]

I'm a little surprised at the curt nature of the Portuguese name. Maybe next time we'll have a Brazilian pope, and his name won't be Bento.

How about:

In Latin: Benedictus XVI

The Greeks might prefer:

In Greek: Μακάριος ο ΙϜ΄

That looks a little more patriarchal in Greek.

-- Garzo.

[Brazilian dude]

I'm a little surprised at the curt nature of the Portuguese name. Maybe next time we'll have a Brazilian pope, and his name won't be Bento.

To tell you the truth, me too. I was expecting Benedito, but according to the Brazilian Episcopal Congregation, there has been no tradition of popes being called Benedito [in Portuguese], that's why they opted for Bento.

Brazilian dude

P.S. The lady in the news today called him Benedito first but then got a briefing saying she should alert viewers that his name in Portuguese is properly Bento.

[Brazilian dude]

In Latin: Benedictus XVI

What do you mean, how about Latin? I included Latin in my list.

Brazilian dude

[Brazilian dude]

Come to think of it, the word benedictus in Latin is past of the verb benedire to bless, literally (to say well). Two Portuguese irregular past participles bento and bendito stammed from that Latin form, both related to the Portuguese verb bendizer. Although they have the same meaning, bendito and bento are used in different contexts. Both are used as adjectives, but bendito renders English blessed and bento renders English holy

Bendito o fruto do vosso ventre - Blessed the fruit of your womb
Água benta - holy water

The same differentiation is not made in Spanish, which uses bendito for both: bendito el fruto de vuestro vientre; agua bendita. Spanish, on the other hand, has the regular past participle bendecido, used in compound tenses, which would technically correspond to Portuguese bendizido, which doesn't exist: El sacerdote había bendecido la unión de los novios./O sacerdote havia bendito a união dos noivos. (The priest had blessed the union of the bride and groom.) Portuguese would more commonly use the verb abençoar in this case: O sacerdote havia abençoado a união dos noivos.

Brazilian dude

[anders]

Chinese (mainland): 本笃十六世 (ben3du3 16th). 本笃 might be literally taken as "root+serious/earnest". Not bad from an atheist country!

[Brazilian dude]

How come they use numbers inside the guy's name? Do they pronounce it à l'anglaise or à la chinoise?

Brazilian dude

[Stargzer]

. . .The Greeks might prefer:

In Greek: Μακάριος ο ΙϜ΄

That looks a little more patriarchal in Greek.

-- Garzo.

Ahh, a translation instead of a transliteration!

ma^ka^r-ios , a, on, also os, on Pl.Lg.803c: collat. form. of makar, mostly used in Prose, but also in Poets, as Pi., and freq. in E.,

1. mostly of men, blessed, happy . . .

[Brazilian dude]

as Pi., and freq. in E.,

It makes a lot of sense now.

Brazilian dude

[anders]

How come they use numbers inside the guy's name? Do they pronounce it à l'anglaise or à la chinoise?

Brazilian dude

The 世 shì means things like "age, era" and is not the normal way to express ordinals. So the name goes bendu shiliu shi.

[Stargzer]

Habemus locos electri papae:

Pope Benedict XVI Gets E-Mail Address

Apr 21, 9:51 AM (ET)

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Got a prayer or a problem for the new pope? Now you can e-mail him. Showing that Pope Benedict XVI intends to follow in the footsteps of John Paul II's multimedia ministry, the Vatican on Thursday modified its Web site so that users who click on an icon on the home page automatically activate an e-mail composer with his address.

In English, the address is benedictxvi@vatican.va. In Italian: benedettoxvi@vatican.va.

Vatican spokesmen could not immediately be reached for comment on how many messages Benedict may have received already.

John Paul, who died April 2, was the first pope to use e-mail, a medium that made its debut during his 26-year papacy. The Vatican said he received tens of thousands of messages in his final weeks as he struggled with illness.

In 2001, sitting in the Vatican's frescoed Clementine Hall, John Paul used a laptop to tap out an apology for Roman Catholic missionary abuses against indigenous peoples of the South Pacific.

The Vatican also used e-mail to notify journalists of John Paul's death.

The Holy See often issues news or documents to journalists via e-mail, and its labyrinth of obscure offices and councils are online in half a dozen languages. Even the Sistine Chapel, with its famed art collection, offers a virtual reality tour.
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On the Net:

Vatican site, http://www.vatican.va

Since there are two email addresses I felt obligated to use the plural accusitive of locus.

[Brazilian dude]

But locus is not a 4th declension noun, it's a 2nd declension noun, whose plural accusative is locos or even the irregular form [i]loca[i/].

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[Brazilian dude]

I've heard the Portuguese term gorjeta has a similar etymology. It is thought to come from gorja, slang for throat (cf. French gorge) and has to do with the money that service providers gratuitously receive to wash their throats.

Brazilian dude

[Stargzer]

But locus is not a 4th declension noun, it's a 2nd declension noun, whose plural accusative is locos or even the irregular form loca.

Brazilian dude

Oops.

Bless me father, for I've not thinned. It's been 39 years since my high school Latin II class.

[tcward]

I declined to take Latin.

-Tim