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Ah, well at least I now understand how one can be "upon" one's 'petard.'saparris wrote:It's a little pun game we used to play on another site.
Pet + retard= petard.
I've seen better, beck. Actually, I haven't seen one this bad in a long time.
Life is like playing chess with chessmen who each have thoughts and feelings and motives of their own.
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Slava - Grand Panjandrum
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I think we can concatenate this Grammar forum nicely with the Rebel-Yankee forum by starting a thread entitled "Grammar & Granpaw"
Beck
"I don't know whether ignorance or apathy is worse, and, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
"I don't know whether ignorance or apathy is worse, and, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
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beck123 - Lexiterian
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I'm going to sleep now. It's late here in the Hookworm Belt, and I have a few wounds to nurse.
Good night, folks
Good night, folks
Beck
"I don't know whether ignorance or apathy is worse, and, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
"I don't know whether ignorance or apathy is worse, and, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
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beck123 - Lexiterian
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Slava wrote:While not exactly a grammatical error, perhaps we could dig up some of the folks who couldn't say shibboleth correctly.saparris wrote:I don't think anyone has died because of a grammatical error.
Eeww! I'd rather not, thanks...
...although at this point it shouldn't be bad...
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skinem - Grand Panjandrum
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If a shibboleth, by one definition, is a commonplace word or phrase that can identify one's cultural identity , then it's somewhat synonymous with an old saw, which can kill you--especially if it's a rusty old saw.
Ars longa, vita brevis
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saparris - Senior Lexiterian
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sluggo wrote:Here here! Your absolutely rite, Beck. An its a dam shame, to. Language at it's worst
Somewhere else I already noted, there's a road sign using the local word for you-plural, spelled "ya'al" ...on both sides of the sign.
I noticed one particular Whole Foods sign actually read "10 items or fewer", and noted my approval to the cashier. She looked at me like I was an ink stain.
I still blame Miller Beer for if not originating, at least exacerbating the misuse of less and fewer.
Did you ask for a "half dozen" and she said they only
have 3,6,9,or 12 of anything, like the story that
floats everywhere today??
-----please, draw me a sheep-----
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LukeJavan8 - Grand Panjandrum
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saparris wrote:If a shibboleth, by one definition, is a commonplace word or phrase that can identify one's cultural identity , then it's somewhat synonymous with an old saw, which can kill you--especially if it's a rusty old saw.
Like "y'all" in caroliner? What is your particular
shibboleth? That might be an interesting topic.
-----please, draw me a sheep-----
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LukeJavan8 - Grand Panjandrum
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Slava wrote:... perhaps we could dig up some of the folks who couldn't say shibboleth correctly.
Dig this guy...
(edit: formatting error corrected)
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LukeJavan8 - Grand Panjandrum
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... perhaps we could dig up some of the folks who couldn't say shibboleth correctly.
I didn't say this. I think Slava did. As for Southern shibboleths, we have more that you can count.
Ars longa, vita brevis
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saparris - Senior Lexiterian
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I think the traditional meaning of "shibboleth" went beyond word or phrase, to include such things as images and objects, as well. The fish symbol, for example, was used as a shibboleth for early Christians and has been, er, resurrected as a shibbolethic bumper sticker in the last few decades.
I have always had the sense that it was a bit secretive, as well. A frat boy displays his Greek letters, which to my thinking are not a shibboleth. There are shibboleths for the fraternity, as well, and they are not made public.
I have always had the sense that it was a bit secretive, as well. A frat boy displays his Greek letters, which to my thinking are not a shibboleth. There are shibboleths for the fraternity, as well, and they are not made public.
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Beck
"I don't know whether ignorance or apathy is worse, and, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
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beck123 - Lexiterian
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I think the traditional meaning of "shibboleth" went beyond word or phrase, to include such things as images and objects, as well.
You're right, but I don't like pick-up trucks and Confederate flags, so I'll stick with Southern expressions and drawls as shibboleths.
Ars longa, vita brevis
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saparris - Senior Lexiterian
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Are you familiar with the folks on Tangier Island in the Chesapeake? In a sense, they use their entire language as a shibboleth, invoking the secretive sense of the word.
Beck
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