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Postby Stargzer » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:39 am

KatyBr wrote: . . . I will write a hundred times
"I wil not follow a link that Larry posts"
"I wil not follow a link that Larry posts"
"I wil not follow a link that Larry posts"


Sorry, Katy, but that's an opening too large to ignore!

http://www.freewebs.com/health_youth_be ... -youth.htm

He-he-he! :twisted:
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Postby KatyBr » Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:52 am

sorry Larry I posted it first!

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Postby Stargzer » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:07 am

I haven't seen all of John Waters' films, but yes, his early efforts were rather depraved. However, all his films carry some element of satire and social commentary, however depraved they are.

For instance, the triva from Hairspray reveals that part of the inspiration for the plot line stems from the state of race relations in Baltimore, Maryland, during the late 1950s and early 1960s, in particular the thwarted effort to integrate a popular local TV show, the Buddy Dean Show, hosted by the late Buddy Dean.

Cry-Baby was another spoof, this time of the clash between the "squares" and the "greasers" (or "drapes" as they were called in Baltimore at that time).

Serial Mom follows a suburban mother who does whatever she feels is necesary to safeguard her family and good manners/good taste (Note to Juror #8: Don't wear white after Labor Day! :twisted: ). There's also a commentary on the death penalty:

Father Boyce: Jesus said nothing to condemn capital punishment as he hung on the cross, did he?
Congregation: No.
Father Boyce: If ever there was a time to go on record against the death penalty, wasn't it that night? Capital punishment is already the law in the state of Maryland. So what are we waiting for, fellow Christians? Let's just do it.
Congregation: Amen.


(Careful, some of the other quotes are X-, or at least R-, rated.)

Pecker (The young man is called "Pecker" because he pecks at his food like a bird.) satirizes the artsy-fartsy New York City art world. Or, as one reviewer wrote:

Due to some great casting choices, this film really brought out the silliness associated with modern art and the subjective nature of your modern artist.


One quote is still topical today:

Tina: We're all famous- just like the Jackson family!
Jimmy: Don't say that, Tina.


:twisted:

I haven't seen Cecil B. Demented, but from the description I suspect there's a bit of Waters laughing at himslef.

Nor have I seen A Dirty Shame, but the thought of Selma Blair as Caprice, the ". . . go-go dancer known to her adoring fans as Ursula Udders" with her "her stupendously enlarged breasts" sounds udderly fascinating. :wink:
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Postby Stargzer » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:10 am

KatyBr wrote:sorry Larry I posted it first!

Katy


And where do you think I got it?

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Postby Stargzer » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:26 am

Apoclima wrote:You're goofy, Larry!


"Goofy is as goofy does!"

In fact, I just rented a movie with Tracey Ullman in it, whom I consider to be THE most talented comedienne and character actress of all time . . .


Yes, a VERY funny and talented person . . .

but when I started to play it, I saw that it was "Directed by John Waters" and my heart sank.

I watched the movie hoping to glean a bit of Tracey's genius, but quickly realized that I had a great knot in my stomach, on the edge of nausea, and that it was just a matter of time before I exposed myself to an image that would keep me vomiting for many days or years to come.


There is nothing funny or interesting about Divine, and John Waters is a sick pathetic person.


I'm sure neither would argue with you on the latter point!

And shame on Tracey for making such an ugly unfunny movie!


At least one reviewer disagrees with you:

Tracey Ullman blends the perfect amount of seriousness and insanity playing her Sylvia Stickles, the woman who comes alive as she is hit in the head! Her scene at the nursing home playing the Hokey Pokey will become a classic Waters moment.


Thanks for the memories, Larry!

Apo


In Selma Blair's case, that should be spelled without the first "e" and the "o" and with two "a's" and an extra "m." :twisted:
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Postby M. Henri Day » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:39 am

Apoclima wrote: ...

And we will root out every terrorist from every terrorist nation, be they communist, socialist or Islamofascist. And if the ideology of a socialist peace gets in the way of understanding that, join the Islamists for all I care!

...


"No human thing is of serious importance."


A rather odd pair, Apo, to come from the same source (even if, in the latter case, derived)....

Henri

PS : As for my humble person, to paraphrase Groucho Marx (one of my cultural heroes), I am as likely to join a fundamentalist organisation, whether Islamistic, Christian, Jewish, Hinduistic, Buddhistic, or whatever, as such an organisation would be to accept me as proselyte....
曾记否,到中流击水,浪遏飞舟?
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Postby KatyBr » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:05 pm

M. Henri Day wrote:...





Henri

PS : As for my humble person, to paraphrase Groucho Marx (one of my cultural heroes), I am as likely to join a fundamentalist organisation, whether Islamistic, Christian, Jewish, Hinduistic, Buddhistic, or whatever, as such an organisation would be to accept me as proselyte....

you'de be surprised at least one of those would indeed welcome you with open arms.

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Postby M. Henri Day » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:57 am

I should indeed be surprised ! Would that be with or without an introductory letter ?...

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Postby Apoclima » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:28 pm

I have used the quote from Plato (via Socrates) because I found it so shocking and incomprehensible. I am still trying to understand it.

But if it is true, in some universal sense, then caring about something or not caring about something, just as doing something and not doing something, are of equal value, i.e. none! And in this there is a sort of freedom. The freedom to act or not act according to one's conscience and the bravery to overcome the smuthering futility of materialism.

The whole sentense reads:
The law would say that to be patient under suffering is best, and that we should not give way to impatience, as there is no knowing whether such things are good or evil; and nothing is gained by impatience; also, because no human thing is of serious importance, and grief stands in the way of that which at the moment is most required.


Of course, this isn't much sense either. Socrates' (via Plato) arguments are seamless, often from the beginning of a book to the end, and very hard to divide up and still make sense of.

Another interesting part:

And does not the same hold also of the ridiculous? There are jests which you would be ashamed to make yourself, and yet on the comic stage, or indeed in private, when you hear them, you are greatly amused by them, and are not at all disgusted at their unseemliness


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Postby KatyBr » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:53 pm

Sitran it reminds me of books where I'd read and read, and all of a sudden realize I haven't followed a train of thought in who knows how long, I have to quit and start all over.

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Postby KatyBr » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:56 pm

M. Henri Day wrote:I should indeed be surprised ! Would that be with or without an introductory letter ?...

Henri


You should know by now, no letter needed, no introduction, He'll accept you just as you are,

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Postby Stargzer » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:28 am

Apoclima wrote: . . .

China issues human rights record of the United States

This is what I am talking about! The Truth is what is expedient for the Marxist revolution, everything else is Lies.
. . .



I went to that site and offer the following out-take:
According to the U.S.' official website www.opensecrets.org, . . .


Gee! I didn't know we had an "official" website!

Now I know to give even less weight to that article.
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