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Postby eberntson » Tue May 22, 2012 11:31 am

widdiful
[fr. Sc. widdy, a rope for hanging]
Scot. (n) one who deserves hanging, a gallows-bird; a scamp, rascal
(a) fit for a halter, deserving to be hanged; scampish, rascally

Well, there are rabbits in our community garden, so I was thinking of setting snares, being a practical Maine raised boy. Wrist rockets aren't allowed in the town, god forbid I use a 22 rifle with shorts which is what I would do if I was in Maine or the country. Vermin I say, VERMIN! So I went from "snare" to "hang" to "widdiful".

Also, how often do we have a words source be Scottish, so does that imply it might have a Celtic root?
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Postby Slava » Tue May 22, 2012 10:54 pm

I wonder if there is any possible relation to widdershins?
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Postby Philip Hudson » Wed May 23, 2012 12:28 am

eberntson: Goggle as I will, I get the origin of widdiful as Middle English or Scottish. Scottish is not a Celtic language. Celtic Scots is usually called Erse. Scottish is a parallel development with English. The two have pretty much merged now.
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Postby Perry Lassiter » Wed May 23, 2012 12:16 pm

What, pray tell, are wrist rockets?
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Postby eberntson » Wed May 23, 2012 3:10 pm

Wrist Rockets are a manufactured type of slingshot. Deadly in practiced hands against varmits.

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Postby Perry Lassiter » Wed May 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Looks neat. Had one as a kid made from solid forked stick and scrap of an inner tube (remember them?). Very strong. Propelled rocks over tree tops. Amazing what we learn in AA in addition to words!
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Postby Philip Hudson » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:56 pm

My ten-year-old buddies and I never knew what to call those handy weapons. We called them sling shots knowing full well that David did not kill Goliath with one of them. This is the first time I ever heard them called wrist rockets. In addition to the hand held variety we made catapult like weapons that were mounted on platforms. Two boys, one on each side, pulled the “inner tube”, and the ammunition was a four or five inch diameter stone. We also made "guns" out of pipes that we dropped firecrackers and marbles into and then aimed quickly before the explosion. Except for one "gun", which backfired and bruised my shoulder badly, we never killed or injured a human. The rabbits had little to fear from us either.
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Postby eberntson » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:51 pm

I wonder if there is any possible relation to widdershins?
Slava, that is an interesting questions, could it imply that a hangman’s noose rope rotation runs counterclockwise in the knot? I have done an initial search and found nothing that excludes or includes that notion. In some readings about hangmen & executioners as a group/guild I know they had many special practices to make their job more solemn. And some just liked their job.

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Re: widdiful

Postby Dr. Goodword » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:45 pm

Down South they are called juvembers or, at least, they were in my time. We used to make them out of wood and strips of inner tubes. (Know what they are?)
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Re: widdiful

Postby eberntson » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:50 pm

My father taught me how to make a slingshot out of a sapling and inner-tube rubber. The wrist rocket was just the "cool" thing the richer kids had, plus I suspected my father thought they were dangerous and didn't want to buy me one. I think I will get one the next time I'm at tackle shop 'cause the community garden has a varmit problem this summer. I'll decrease the surplus population a little. If I was 10 years old I'd have the time to get'em ALL. It's to gentrified around here to hire a boy to be a boy and do the job for me. These city folks sure don't know what they are missing.

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Re: widdiful

Postby Philip Hudson » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:03 pm

"Juvembers" definitely puts the Good Doctor from Down South. It points directly to his home state of North Carolina. I have not been in North Carolina enough to get down all its local words, and I didn't know this word. I think I will adopt it here in Texas.
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