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Postby Philip Hudson » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:42 pm

wurdpurrson: The Osage and the Creek Amerinds were and are both in Oklahoma. The fact that your ancestors suffered the "trail of tears" probably points to the Creeks. The Osage were a mid-western tribe and they were already in Oklahoma when the eastern tribes went through the removal. Either way, to be an Amerind descendant is, in my estimation, a matter of pride. I have tried many paths to discover my Cherokee ancestry. I share ancestral names with many Cherokees. Although I can find relationships, my direct line seems never to have come through the Amerind experience. I am English and German melded into pure redneckism.
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Postby wurdpurrson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:29 am

Philip, I am proud to share such heritage. My father always regretted that his mother hated the US government so much that she grabbed her brood and fled to Arkansas with them to avoid being registered by the BIA. She died when my dad was 10. She was a healer. Dad always wished he knew more of his culture. In many small and quiet ways, I honor that heritage. His family always referred to themselves as 'Indian', as do my many adoptive Shoshone-Bannock relations.

The Cherokee themselves were a large and well-developed culture - many Whites claim heritage with them, not too surprisingly, given that they were over 20,000 strong and obviously intermarried along the way. We owe much to our First Citizens.
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Postby wurdpurrson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:31 am

P S: Many of my friends and acquaintances are redneck, though most are not too extreme.
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Postby Perry Lassiter » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:40 am

How did you Amerinds react to the NCAA's demand that the name "Indians," etc be dropped by college athletic teams. I was surprised at the ruling as I thought it was an honor to have such a name.
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Postby wurdpurrson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:16 pm

Most I know find it patronizing. Would you find it appropriate to name a team White Guys? Or how about "Go Caucasians!" Seems one could be a little more creative than that. And I'm not even full blood.
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Postby Perry Lassiter » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:37 pm

Being from the South, I'd fear those names would create the feeling we were prejudice. I'd always assumed they weere complimentary of fierce warriors as are the lions and tigers. If they come across patronizing, we are correct to drop them.
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Postby wurdpurrson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:15 pm

Thank you for your understanding, Perry; I (and many others) appreciate it.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:10 pm

I concur with you both. Thanks.
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Postby bamaboy56 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:58 pm

My wife's people come from the Creeks. Here where I live that seems to be the predominant tribe. There's quite a large casino being run by Creeks not far away. Being born and raised in Texas, I remember visiting the Alabama-Coushatta reservation when I was a kid. Very interesting!
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