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Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Perry Lassiter » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:40 pm

A NYT article today says a computer projection suggests PIE came from southern Turkey. What do you think?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/scien ... gests.html
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Slava » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:07 pm

An interesting article that manages to say almost nothing, as is now usual in US reporting.

I'm leaning toward the Anatolian idea, but I do understand the quibbles from the other side.
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Philip Hudson » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:29 pm

I am not a PIE scholar. I concentrate on my mother-tongue, English through a Red Neck filter, and that is about all I can handle. I did read the article Perry referenced. I guess the most I got out of it was one person accusing the other of "hand-wavy argument". Much of any argument is hand-wavy. Right now I am sticking to the old Steppes of Russia origin for PIE, just because it has been around a long time and plenty of hands have been waved over it. I thought the article was pretty well written since I give more lattitude than Slava. The guys admited that neither one of them was a linguist.
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Slava » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:43 am

Here is another report on this topic, with a very Anatolian bias.
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Perry Lassiter » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:44 am

A better article, clearer and more focused.
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby Philip Hudson » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:17 pm

I saw some interesting ages in this latest article from Slava. PIE 9,000 years ago in Anatolia, versus the steppes if Russia 5,000 years ago, gives one cause to pause. I have always wondered how PIE could be the mother of so many languages when it was only 5,000 years old. 9,000 years give us more wiggle room. Of course the supposed PIE in Russian would be a descendant of the Anatolian PIE. I am about to convert to Anatolian. But I will be a Baptist Anatolian.
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Re: Our lingo from Anatolia?

Postby bnjtokyo » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:49 am

There was also an article in Nature
http://www.nature.com/news/a-turkish-or ... es-1.11270
The comments section complains that the use of "Turkish origin" in the title was inappropriate and a source of confusion.
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