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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Perry Lassiter » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:50 pm

I suspect part of the offense is the mixture of black coffee and white cream, tho I agree it's blasphemy to mess with good coffee. And they dare to call flavored coffee gourmet! Gourmet coffee is the exotics, like Jamaican Blue Mountain or Kona. You got me started, Philip, so this rant is your fault.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Slava » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:10 pm

Perhaps there is a vague hope we can keep any rants somehow or other related to language and words?
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby LukeJavan8 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:43 am

Well, now you have me confused, which is not unusual.
I'm not good with double entendres and thought the moo
was from the cow as well. I've never been to a
Starbucks for latte there or anywhere else either.
Just good strong black coffee. I could buy three pounds
of coffee for the price of one latte.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Philip Hudson » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:03 pm

Rants can be discussions of words. The Original Good word for this thread is miscegenation. In discussing this word we wandered to pejorative terms for people of different and mixed "races". This makes sense. Slava suggested the words Moo Latte, might be an ethnic or racial slur. Some of didn't think so, but it shifted the discussion to latte and to coffee. All of these are English words and subjects for discussion.

I hope the original Good Word, miscegenation, can get some more discussion. The discussion can be touchy, but we are all able to take it. Remember there is only one human race and we are all, I avow, a part of it. I hope we have a goal in mind for this race but, if not, the journey will be worth it.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Perry Lassiter » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:49 pm

So shall we discuss mullato now?
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Slava » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:54 pm

I'd prefer that to coffee, truth be told. If I remember correctly, a mulatto is the first step of miscegenation. Early in the thread, quadroons and octoroons were mentioned. They come after mulatto.

What I was hoping to get at is that it was an egregious lack of tact and taste that led the coffee shop to hint at what is generally considered to be a racist word. Meaning that miscegenation is not something to be joked with.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby gailr » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:12 pm

Slava wrote:...Meaning that miscegenation is not something to be joked with.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. As with most things, intention and context are important, but humor can be very effective in battling prejudice when used well. Some of my favorite comedians skewer kneejerk biases of "race," gender, age, class, belief in a way that unites a heterogeneous audience and leaves them with positive reactions. People can be relieved to laugh at the idea when they aren't afraid that they'll be interpreted as supporting it.

Of course, done badly or with malice such jokes backfire and upset people. The pun is too perfect in this case (and in light of other extremely polarizing and distasteful ads retracted quickly after a firestorm of outrage) I suspect the copywriters knew exactly what they were doing and thought it would be funny. They were wrong.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Philip Hudson » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Although there is no way to prove it, I still think the copywriters were innocent in using the silly words Moo Latte.

Mullato is a word not claimed by the people it was meant to describe. Hence it should have no currency.

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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby LukeJavan8 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:26 pm

Well moo latte is still lost on me, but that is OK
as I don't need to learn any new one. Serbia
and Kosovo are today locked in their form of
miscegenation in the news. Copts and Muslims
in Egypt: From Adam and his apple to the end
of time, probably. South Africa is worried what will
happen when Mandela departs.


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a 1989 on

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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Slava » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:12 pm

LukeJavan8 wrote:Serbia and Kosovo are today locked in their form of miscegenation in the news. Copts and Muslims
in Egypt...

Luke, I am sorry to say that you've missed the boat on miscegenation here. It's the mixing of blood in love, not the spilling of it in hatred.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Dr. Goodword » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:37 pm

Did anyone ever hear of moo juice? Can you guess what it is?
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Perry Lassiter » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:50 pm

I hear Spanish call it leche.
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Slava » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:57 pm

Dr. Goodword wrote:Did anyone ever hear of moo juice? Can you guess what it is?
I've always thought of it as mlekho or moloko, but I expect there is a trap here. When will our Dr. spring it on us?
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby LukeJavan8 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:43 am

Dr. Goodword wrote:Did anyone ever hear of moo juice? Can you guess what it is?



Coupled with slava's comment and the love/blood
confusion, is it a play on words to mulatto?
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Re: MISCEGENATION

Postby Perry Lassiter » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:29 pm

Luke, moo juice is juice from a cow, ergo milk. Heard it all my life.
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