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MANOR

Postby Dr. Goodword » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:26 pm

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Pronunciation: mæn-êr • Hear it!

Part of Speech: Noun

Meaning: 1. The main house on a landed estate, usually a mansion. 2. A tract of land with hereditary rights granted by royal charter. 3. (Historical) The estate of a lord, a landed possession of a lord, including the lands which he governs.

Notes: To the manor bornThe adjective accompanying today's Good Word is manorial. Should we decide to shift to a manorial system of government, we would manorialize the counties, as we did in the past. The phrase "to the manor born" began its life in the 17th century as "to the manner born", meaning "familiar with the customs of a place from birth". This phrase is now taken to mean "naturally suited for". Since manor and manner are pronounced identically, the spelling of this phrase has been confused since the middle of the 18th century. The BBC took advantage of this confusion with its TV series, To the Manor Born, implying that one is accustomed to living in lordly fashion.

In Play: This Good Word today usually refers to a large estate in the country or just a mansion: "When Norman Conquest made his millions, he spent it all on a manor in the country, complete with moat, which he stocked with trout." I suppose we should accept the phrase "to the manor born", now that it has taken up residence in all the major dictionaries: "Now Norman's children behave as though they were to the manor born—well, I guess they were, weren't they?"

Word History: This word comes to us from Old French maneir, manoir "dwelling, to dwell" from Latin manere "to stay, remain". This root may be seen in Greek menein "to remain", Persian mandan "to remain", and Armenian mnam "I remain", but the Germanic languages like English had to borrow the word from Latin and the Romance languages, all of which evolved from Latin. We see the same root in mansion, manse, remain, and permanent—all borrowed. (We see that P. G. Beck was to the manner of words born, for 'twas P. G. who suggested today's very Good Word.)
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Re: MANOR

Postby Perry Lassiter » Tue May 07, 2013 2:27 pm

Odd. 238 people have viewed this, but no one has commented. Still, it pops up after two months. Slava, did you think we need to re-read this?
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Re: MANOR

Postby Slava » Tue May 07, 2013 4:22 pm

Perry Lassiter wrote:Odd. 238 people have viewed this, but no one has commented. Still, it pops up after two months. Slava, did you think we need to re-read this?
Sorry, but you have me at a loss here. What do you mean by its popping up, and what do you think I have to do with it? It was a post made by Dr. Goodword in early March.

Also, where did you get your figure of 238 views? Including my recent visit, it's up to 131.

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Re: MANOR

Postby MTC » Tue May 07, 2013 6:53 pm

It's easy, Slava. You're the "wild card" on the forum. If something unusual happens, you must perforce be behind it, enjoying a somewhat puckish reputation as you do. That would include a word originally posted by Dr. G in February, mysteriously "popping up" again in May. Who else but Slava with his roving commission? As for 131 and 238, divide the latter by the former and you arrive at 1.816 or Phi, the golden ratio. Voila! Clear now, isn't it?
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Re: MANOR

Postby Perry Lassiter » Tue May 07, 2013 7:03 pm

I can't do better than MTC.
it was on my list of new posts with the 200+ number after it. I picked on you because you sometimes repost stuff. My bad. Fun to re read tho.
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Re: MANOR

Postby Slava » Tue May 07, 2013 7:55 pm

MTC wrote:It's easy, Slava. You're the "wild card" on the forum. If something unusual happens, you must perforce be behind it, enjoying a somewhat puckish reputation as you do. That would include a word originally posted by Dr. G in Febuary, mysteriously "popping up" again in May. Who else but Slava with his roving commission?
No, no, no, and no.

What do you wish to imply by labeling me a "wild card"? I believe my attempts at sticking to the rules of the Agora would make me more of a stick in the mud than a wild card.

Whence cometh my supposed "puckish reputation"? Who me, Puck?

What meaneth Febuary (sic), when the post was made in March?

What is a roving commission?

Has anyone else come across this as a new post for the day?

As regards "re-posting", I do not engage in this activity. When I post words to the Discussion board, it is because Dr. Goodword, for whatever reason, did not post the GWotD. It may be a repeat from years back (when I simply copy & paste), or it may be a new entry to the GW dictionary (when I somewhat less simply copy & paste). It is most emphatically NOT me deciding to post a word for no particular reason.
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Re: MANOR

Postby gailr » Tue May 07, 2013 8:13 pm

Slava doth protest almost too much, methinks. :wink:
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Re: MANOR

Postby Perry Lassiter » Tue May 07, 2013 10:34 pm

I'm reminded about the old saying that you know you live in a small town when you dial a wrong number and talk for 20 minutes. I probably goofed originally, and we've been having fun ever since!
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Re: MANOR

Postby Philip Hudson » Tue May 07, 2013 10:43 pm

Curiouser and curiouser! I remember the original posting and there was a threadof discussion that is now missing. We talked about "to the manner born" vs "to the manor born" among other things.

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Re: MANOR

Postby MTC » Wed May 08, 2013 4:46 am

Wow! The boards really lit up on this one, didn't they?

Philip Hudson wrote:Lighten up on Slava.


At first I thought you wrote "Lighten up Slava." But then I misspelled February. Anyway, the whole thing has been lighter than helium from the start.

As for Slava's reaction to "wild card" and "stick in the mud," in the spirit of compromise I'll make it "a wild card on a stick in the mud." How about that? You can't be faulted for going halfway, can you?

I'll even violate company policy by adding an emoticon right here :D
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Re: MANOR

Postby Slava » Wed May 08, 2013 10:41 am

Guess what, computers do odd things. The other Manor thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6163

This one is 6162. Go figure.
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