Question of dialect

[MNgyal]

I say wagon properly too, but I'm from the Cities, where the accent is the least pronounced. The accent gets heavier the farther you get into rural MN.

[KatyBr]

Mngyal, the Northern Minnesota accents are even More pronounced, up in the iron range....I loved the lenth and strenth, for length and strength. no g at all. yet English clearly has a g.

Kt

[Brazilian dude]

yet English clearly has a g.

Does that mean they don't speak English?

Brazilian dude

[KatyBr]

'g' sound, BD,as in Eng(hard g stop here)'-lish, contrast to lenth all one sound, no 'g' sound in the middle. Minnesotans know what I'm saying,
Kt

[Brazilian dude]

I know what you are saying too, and a lot of people say reconize instead of recognize.

Brazilian dude

[KatyBr]

yup, yup, that's another one, grates on my ears, it does, just like the guy I know who does just that, says it "grates on my ears it does." That weird reiteration at the end of the sentance, but he's from Maine, so doesn't rightly belong in this discussion.

Kt

[Brazilian dude]

But all languages possess that mechanism of "redundancy" for emphasis, Katy, and there's nothing intrinsically bad with it, especially in speech.

Brazilian dude

[KatyBr]

But all languages possess that mechanism of "redundancy" for emphasis, Katy, and there's nothing intrinsically bad with it, especially in speech.

Brazilian dude

I never said it was bad, it just grates on my nerves.

Kt

[Brazilian dude]

But good things don't grate on your nerves, do they?

Brazilian dude

[KatyBr]

Sometimes! BD

Kt
redundancy/waste all that bothers me. I'm conservative with things but liberal with my giving.

[anwang]

This is the sound you would here someone in North Dakota say, also somewhat in Minnesota. Flag is fleg. Bag is beg. Who know why.

[sluggo]

There are several dialect where [ae] > [e]: Australia/New Zealand and New York-Philadelphia corridor.

I dunno- I grew up right in that NY-Phil corridor and we had a canyon of disctinction between those vowels. In fact, my siblings and I were always begging for clarification from Mississippi Mom, who had to spell it out: "PIN! P-E-N!" Give me that 'pin'!