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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:56 pm
by brogine
Through assiduous shiftlessness, I have found a quadruple heteronym!
And it doesn’t involve Scottish English.
It will be revealed in a week or so. (I may need reminding.)

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:04 pm
by Slava
To, too, two, Tue.?

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:03 pm
by brogine
Sorry, old son. Abbreviations need not apply.
Anyway, those are homonyms.
Perusing my effluvia, though, I do see a few quad homonyms, although a couple exhibit scant respect for my strict principles on word games.
Actually, I didn’t know ‘heteronym’, and discovered it searching the OED for words ending -nym. I was surprised that there are about fifty!

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:23 pm
by Slava
Well, if the right person's pronouncing the words, do ate, eight, ait, and hate count? :shock:

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:58 pm
by brogine
Still homonyms. Heteronyms are - independently - tear, lead, bow, and the ever-popular cetera.

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:47 pm
by brogine
Enfin!
Well, all both of you waiting . . . (I’ve always been an optimist, and apologies to Louis Jordan, by the by) . . . counting British English, (or Old or Middle English, if you’re doing a reading), there are four ways to pronounce s-l-o-u-g-h.

To wit, depending on meaning, of course, it can rhyme with
rough
through
bough
though.

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:52 pm
by Slava
Can you give us an example of the 'through' usage? I can't come up with one that will help me slough off my slough of despond.

Did you come across this after watching Slow Horses on the telly?

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:35 pm
by brogine
Hi. Did you mean though? Because through is one of the two most obvious ones. Matter of fact, it’s the usual pronunciation of your second slough.
‘Slough’ was an alternate spelling of ‘slow’ in Middle English, and ‘slow’ is given as a secondary pronunciation of ‘slough’-cum-‘morass’ in U.S. English, and the single such in British.

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:07 am
by Slava
I've always gone 'rough off my though' (for the rhyming equivalents). I don't think I've thought of 'rough off my threw/through'. Which is odd, given that slough has been to the Dr.'s office twice, and has the slew pronunciation right there. (Visit 1, Visit 2)

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:50 pm
by brogine
Pronunciation: slu (US), slaw (UK)”

Interesting. ‘Slaw’ would a fifth way to pronounce.
Unfortunately, this is not supported by the OED.

Maybe - and I think anyone is susceptible to this - it’s a regional variation so familiar it’s thought of without question as standard.