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Chinese character missing from dictionary :-)
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:11 am
by frank
Hi all,
I can't find find a particular character, and i hope somebody here can help
me out.
1. The character i'm looking for looks like the one in
this link, but the 田-part at the right is to be replaced by 木.
2. The context is a description of a Dutch-Chinese pocket dictionary.
词典共收荷兰语词目8500馀*。
Or rather (since the text is in traditional characters):
詞典共收荷蘭語詞目8500餘*。
The asterisk indicates the place of the missing character.
I tried everything within my possibilities, but so far in vain. You're my last hope (he wrote, not without a sense for drama
.
Thanks in advance.
Groetjes,
Frank
Re: Chinese character missing from dictionary :-)
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:49 pm
by M. Henri Day
...
2. The context is a description of a Dutch-Chinese pocket dictionary.
词典共收荷兰语词目8500馀*。
Or rather (since the text is in traditional characters):
詞典共收荷蘭語詞目8500餘*。
The asterisk indicates the place of the missing character.
没事儿,
Frank ! It might be a wee bit easier to understand that the dictionary contains more than 8500 entries of Dutch words and phrases if the sentences quoted above are amended as follows :
词典共收荷兰语词目8500馀条。...
詞典共收荷蘭語詞目8500餘條。
The graph «条» («條») is read «
tiáo» and here means «item», «entry»....
Geen dank
Henri
Re: Chinese character missing from dictionary :-)
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:12 am
by frank
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没事儿, FrankThe graph «条» («條») is read «tiáo» and here means «item», «entry»....Geen dank
Toch wel!! Hartelijk bedankt.
On the one hand i'm a bit surprised that the character is simplified, on the other hand i started to wonder why i couldn't find the character in traditional dictionaries. Seems the radical of 條 is not 人, as i thought to be logical and obvious, but 木.
"Rare jongens, die Chinezen", as Obelix would say it...
Frank
Re: Chinese character missing from dictionary :-)
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:13 am
by Flaminius
Seems the radical of 條 is not 人, as i thought to be logical and obvious, but 木.
I am to surprised to learn that. According to my 『新字源』 the character in question is composed of 木 and the rest to mean a straight long branch protruding from the trunk.
Oh, and the "rest of the character" is an independent character meaning "to stretch".
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:27 pm
by M. Henri Day
The so-called «radicals» are a real can of worms ! Morohashi, for example, follows tradition and lists both «条» and «條» under «木» (6-14486 and 6-14859, resp), whereas the 《汉语大词典》 lists «条» under «夂» (3-1199), but «條» under «人» = «亻» (1-1478). It is for reasons like these that most Chinese dictionaries contain a «难检字表», i e, a list of graphs that are difficult to look up. Reasonably enough, «条» is to be found in the list in vol 3 of the 《汉语大词典》. Obelix may have been right....
Henri
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:59 pm
by anders
肥寶寶 说: 这些 罗马人 真 怪
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:07 pm
by M. Henri Day
«肥寶寶» is, at any rate, a (string of) Chinese graphs missing from my dictionaries. Is that our dear Obelix, that ?...
Henri
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:47 pm
by anders
Should be him, acording to at least one of the translations.
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:23 am
by Stargzer
«肥寶寶» is, at any rate, a (string of) Chinese graphs missing from my dictionaries. Is that our dear Obelix, that ?...
Henri
Is that Asterix's good friend?
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:41 am
by anders
Yes, that's him. féi bǎo bǎo might be translated as ”fat precious/darling baby”.