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		<title>By: Miriam B.</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-234330</link>
		<dc:creator>Miriam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most annoying trend is among women trying to sound like girls by imitating uptalk, adding a grating &quot;Think you&quot; not even &quot;Thank you&quot; every so often and in my head not deserving of any gratitude for having to listen to their pathetic attempts to sound like young, valley-girl dolls.  I am so annoyed!  You can see this in action on the Real Housewives of Orange County, ugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most annoying trend is among women trying to sound like girls by imitating uptalk, adding a grating &#8220;Think you&#8221; not even &#8220;Thank you&#8221; every so often and in my head not deserving of any gratitude for having to listen to their pathetic attempts to sound like young, valley-girl dolls.  I am so annoyed!  You can see this in action on the Real Housewives of Orange County, ugh!</p>
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		<title>By: TLimon</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-134465</link>
		<dc:creator>TLimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to rbeard, may I venture to say that the idiolects may be something of a socio economic variety.  Lets for a moment assume that you are correct that there is no monolithic &#039;Northwestern&#039; accent or &#039;Oregonian&#039; accent and also assume that the notion of an accent is not a sociological construction.  Do Oregonians speak with a certain rural or working class accent versus more bourgeois oriented &#039;folks&#039; such as the difference between the coastal hills &#039;folk&#039; and &#039;people&#039; who live in Portland?  I would have to agree with Kyle that there are in fact some discernable Oregon accents ie. South/South Eastern Buckaroo accents.  Also, that area of the state spanning S. OR, N. CA, and N. NV have different politics and higher levels of religiosity than anywhere else along the west coast.  These folks even tried to secceed from their respective states to form the state of Jefferson in 1941.  Not to mention the fact that most of the state of Oregon was settled by southern whites seeking some form of racial seperatism.  In many ways the social norms and even accents live on in many people in Oregon.  Oregon is more than Portland and the Willamette Valley and so is Oregon&#039;s &#039;accents&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to rbeard, may I venture to say that the idiolects may be something of a socio economic variety.  Lets for a moment assume that you are correct that there is no monolithic &#8216;Northwestern&#8217; accent or &#8216;Oregonian&#8217; accent and also assume that the notion of an accent is not a sociological construction.  Do Oregonians speak with a certain rural or working class accent versus more bourgeois oriented &#8216;folks&#8217; such as the difference between the coastal hills &#8216;folk&#8217; and &#8216;people&#8217; who live in Portland?  I would have to agree with Kyle that there are in fact some discernable Oregon accents ie. South/South Eastern Buckaroo accents.  Also, that area of the state spanning S. OR, N. CA, and N. NV have different politics and higher levels of religiosity than anywhere else along the west coast.  These folks even tried to secceed from their respective states to form the state of Jefferson in 1941.  Not to mention the fact that most of the state of Oregon was settled by southern whites seeking some form of racial seperatism.  In many ways the social norms and even accents live on in many people in Oregon.  Oregon is more than Portland and the Willamette Valley and so is Oregon&#8217;s &#8216;accents&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: rbeard</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-119208</link>
		<dc:creator>rbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alphaDictionary website has many resources for language learners: the Good Word series, the Good Word Junion series is especially good for language learners. We also have the most frequently mispronounced and misspelled words as well as the most often confused words, which come with quizzes that allow visitors to test their knowledge of the confused words.

There is more, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alphaDictionary website has many resources for language learners: the Good Word series, the Good Word Junion series is especially good for language learners. We also have the most frequently mispronounced and misspelled words as well as the most often confused words, which come with quizzes that allow visitors to test their knowledge of the confused words.</p>
<p>There is more, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Gerace</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-119108</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Gerace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that UP TALK restricted to white, or white talking,  young people, mostly women? It drives me as crazy as what was called &quot;valley girl&quot; talk.

Moving to something more meaningful... Accents are a serious matter for the new immigrant. Great discussion. I teach English to immigrant adults and am interested in helping my students overcome some of their great pronunciation problems. I have found some resources for them in  &lt;a href=&quot;”http://www.GoodAccent.com”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.GoodAccent.com&lt;/a&gt; We must recognize that the current anti-immigrant mood and its consequent discrimination is not a theoretical issue for immigrants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that UP TALK restricted to white, or white talking,  young people, mostly women? It drives me as crazy as what was called &#8220;valley girl&#8221; talk.</p>
<p>Moving to something more meaningful&#8230; Accents are a serious matter for the new immigrant. Great discussion. I teach English to immigrant adults and am interested in helping my students overcome some of their great pronunciation problems. I have found some resources for them in  <a href="”http://www.GoodAccent.com”" rel="nofollow">http://www.GoodAccent.com</a> We must recognize that the current anti-immigrant mood and its consequent discrimination is not a theoretical issue for immigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: rbeard</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-92570</link>
		<dc:creator>rbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to dialects, there are also idiolects, slight variations from community to community, family to family, even person to person within a family, depending on age, occupation, general interests.

There are certainly idiolects everywhere but the dialects are quite noticeable: Brooklyn accent (dialect), Southern accent, Texas accent are not coincidental terms.  They refer to a set of differences noticeable over a wide area. We don&#039;t heave of an &quot;Oregon accent&quot; or &quot;Northwestern accent&quot; because the variations in these areas are so slight they can be included under the rubric of &quot;idiolect&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to dialects, there are also idiolects, slight variations from community to community, family to family, even person to person within a family, depending on age, occupation, general interests.</p>
<p>There are certainly idiolects everywhere but the dialects are quite noticeable: Brooklyn accent (dialect), Southern accent, Texas accent are not coincidental terms.  They refer to a set of differences noticeable over a wide area. We don&#8217;t heave of an &#8220;Oregon accent&#8221; or &#8220;Northwestern accent&#8221; because the variations in these areas are so slight they can be included under the rubric of &#8220;idiolect&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-92209</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in Central Oregon (Bend) and haven&#039;t lived there permanently since I left for college when I was 18.  

Growing up I never thought that there was an accent in my part of Oregon (at least, no accent that was distinguishable from the rest of the West Coast) though I did think there were some people in small Eastern Oregon towns that had a strong &quot;hick&quot; accent.  I wouldn&#039;t describe this &quot;hick&quot; accent as Southern though.

After college I left Oregon and I&#039;ve lived in California and New York.  From time to time (especially in New York), people assumed I was from the South or otherwise commented that I had an accent.  This surprised me at first but now I accept that I speak with an accent.  

I have to say that as time goes by, whenever I go back to Bend or talk to my childhood friends on the phone, it sounds more and more like they have that &quot;hick&quot; accent and I realize what I must sound like to others.  

I&#039;m not sure if my Oregon accent is going away with time but my wife (not from Oregon) tells me that when I get together with my old friends I somehow talk differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in Central Oregon (Bend) and haven&#8217;t lived there permanently since I left for college when I was 18.  </p>
<p>Growing up I never thought that there was an accent in my part of Oregon (at least, no accent that was distinguishable from the rest of the West Coast) though I did think there were some people in small Eastern Oregon towns that had a strong &#8220;hick&#8221; accent.  I wouldn&#8217;t describe this &#8220;hick&#8221; accent as Southern though.</p>
<p>After college I left Oregon and I&#8217;ve lived in California and New York.  From time to time (especially in New York), people assumed I was from the South or otherwise commented that I had an accent.  This surprised me at first but now I accept that I speak with an accent.  </p>
<p>I have to say that as time goes by, whenever I go back to Bend or talk to my childhood friends on the phone, it sounds more and more like they have that &#8220;hick&#8221; accent and I realize what I must sound like to others.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if my Oregon accent is going away with time but my wife (not from Oregon) tells me that when I get together with my old friends I somehow talk differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan L</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-89239</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born in Northern Minnesota (60 miles from the Canadian border) and lived there for the first eight years of my life. I have lived in Oregon for the last 30 years and am now 50 years old. I have been approached by more than one person who has asked me if I am from Minnesota. Also, I had a total stranger ask me if I was born and raised in northern Minnesota. She informed me that she had studied various dialects and that one of them had been the northern Minnesota dialect.  She picked up on something  I had said/pronounced after 30+ years being out of the state. I have lost some of the distinctive parts of speech, yes. Also, I believe education does play a part as I gave up some of those distinctive phrases/words as I worked through to my Master&#039;s Degree. My relatives that still live in northern  Minnesota speak with a strong and distinctive dialect. It is not fading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born in Northern Minnesota (60 miles from the Canadian border) and lived there for the first eight years of my life. I have lived in Oregon for the last 30 years and am now 50 years old. I have been approached by more than one person who has asked me if I am from Minnesota. Also, I had a total stranger ask me if I was born and raised in northern Minnesota. She informed me that she had studied various dialects and that one of them had been the northern Minnesota dialect.  She picked up on something  I had said/pronounced after 30+ years being out of the state. I have lost some of the distinctive parts of speech, yes. Also, I believe education does play a part as I gave up some of those distinctive phrases/words as I worked through to my Master&#8217;s Degree. My relatives that still live in northern  Minnesota speak with a strong and distinctive dialect. It is not fading.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-67613</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I just wanted to add a little bit of information to the Northern Minnesota comments.  I grew up on the border of Minnesota and North Dakota, and I lived in Fargo for several years.  I am attending graduate school for sociolinguistics, and I recently bemused studying the change of the Northern Minnesota dialect for a project.

All that being said, I decided to compare the speech of my boyfriend (native Fargoan) to the movie Fargo.  While the movie itself had a lot of cleverly inserted nuances to our dialect, I have to say it was inaccurate.  The dialect these people spoke is absolutely overdone and stereotyped.  Nobody except maybe very rural and elderly farmers or miners from the northwoods would speak that way.  

Also, a little side note: the accent is not only influenced by Norwegian, but Swedish, Finnish, and German, and our peculiar word choice/order (&quot;Ya comin with?&quot; or &quot;Fer cute!&quot;) is influenced by these languages as well.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I just wanted to add a little bit of information to the Northern Minnesota comments.  I grew up on the border of Minnesota and North Dakota, and I lived in Fargo for several years.  I am attending graduate school for sociolinguistics, and I recently bemused studying the change of the Northern Minnesota dialect for a project.</p>
<p>All that being said, I decided to compare the speech of my boyfriend (native Fargoan) to the movie Fargo.  While the movie itself had a lot of cleverly inserted nuances to our dialect, I have to say it was inaccurate.  The dialect these people spoke is absolutely overdone and stereotyped.  Nobody except maybe very rural and elderly farmers or miners from the northwoods would speak that way.  </p>
<p>Also, a little side note: the accent is not only influenced by Norwegian, but Swedish, Finnish, and German, and our peculiar word choice/order (&#8220;Ya comin with?&#8221; or &#8220;Fer cute!&#8221;) is influenced by these languages as well.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Lena Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-26166</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rbeard,

Thank you so much for your response.  The thread that I mentioned about Mr. Weber&#039;s &quot;accent&quot; has 69 responses.  As I said, the role that he plays is supposed to be of a Minnesota native. However, Weber sounds like Christopher Plummer. So, what accent/dialect does Mr. Plummer have?  When Plummer does the British roles, he is speaking the Queen&#039;s English?

By the way, I loved the movie &quot;Fargo&quot;. The Cohen Brothers have done some great work.  Another favorite of mine is &quot;O Brother Where Art Thou?&quot;  I&#039;m from the south and found some (but not all) of the actors speaking a believable southern drawl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rbeard,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your response.  The thread that I mentioned about Mr. Weber&#8217;s &#8220;accent&#8221; has 69 responses.  As I said, the role that he plays is supposed to be of a Minnesota native. However, Weber sounds like Christopher Plummer. So, what accent/dialect does Mr. Plummer have?  When Plummer does the British roles, he is speaking the Queen&#8217;s English?</p>
<p>By the way, I loved the movie &#8220;Fargo&#8221;. The Cohen Brothers have done some great work.  Another favorite of mine is &#8220;O Brother Where Art Thou?&#8221;  I&#8217;m from the south and found some (but not all) of the actors speaking a believable southern drawl.</p>
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		<title>By: rbeard</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=15&#038;cpage=1#comment-26134</link>
		<dc:creator>rbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena,

I think you might be confusing your accents. I am not familiar with Jake Weber&#039;s work but he was born in London and should speak either with received pronunciation (Queen&#039;s English) or a cockney accent. 

The greatest display of the northern Minnesotan accent is in the Cohen Brother&#039;s masterpiece, &quot;Fargo&quot;.  Marge Gunderson and William Macy, two of the creative geniuses on the US screen, create perfect examples of that accent, which bears no notable commonalities with either British dialect. The northern Minnesotan accent is the result of Norwegian influences.

Christopher Plummer? He is from Toronto, Canada. However, is has excellent breadth and has done many British roles admirably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lena,</p>
<p>I think you might be confusing your accents. I am not familiar with Jake Weber&#8217;s work but he was born in London and should speak either with received pronunciation (Queen&#8217;s English) or a cockney accent. </p>
<p>The greatest display of the northern Minnesotan accent is in the Cohen Brother&#8217;s masterpiece, &#8220;Fargo&#8221;.  Marge Gunderson and William Macy, two of the creative geniuses on the US screen, create perfect examples of that accent, which bears no notable commonalities with either British dialect. The northern Minnesotan accent is the result of Norwegian influences.</p>
<p>Christopher Plummer? He is from Toronto, Canada. However, is has excellent breadth and has done many British roles admirably.</p>
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