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		<title>By: ABR</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post addresses an interesting topic but leaves an empty feeling regarding the actual question: why did gender for all objects evolve or persist in languages?  The only point that addresses this was, &quot;helps the mind of the listener keep up with which adjective and which verb goes with which noun in complex sentences that have multiple adjectives and verbs&quot;.  This is weak.  As every student knows, French has strict word-order requirements for adjectives and nouns.  As far as I know, other gender-using Indo-European languages are similar.  Unless the author can exhibit a language where order is fluid and the speakers actually use gender categories to keep things straight (except when they are all the same and then word order becomes more strict I would imagine), I&#039;m dubious.

My own intuition, which I don&#039;t really believe that strongly and would like to find an alternative for, is that grammatical gender is simply left over from prehistoric cultures that had an animist worldview.  Everything actually had gender in these cultures because it was believed that spirits of one sort or another resided in all objects.  (The calling a boat &quot;she&quot; example a commenter brought up is kind of a holdover of this -- boats are so enduring and possessing of distinct, almost personality-like qualities that this primitive urge within us comes forth even today.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post addresses an interesting topic but leaves an empty feeling regarding the actual question: why did gender for all objects evolve or persist in languages?  The only point that addresses this was, &#8220;helps the mind of the listener keep up with which adjective and which verb goes with which noun in complex sentences that have multiple adjectives and verbs&#8221;.  This is weak.  As every student knows, French has strict word-order requirements for adjectives and nouns.  As far as I know, other gender-using Indo-European languages are similar.  Unless the author can exhibit a language where order is fluid and the speakers actually use gender categories to keep things straight (except when they are all the same and then word order becomes more strict I would imagine), I&#8217;m dubious.</p>
<p>My own intuition, which I don&#8217;t really believe that strongly and would like to find an alternative for, is that grammatical gender is simply left over from prehistoric cultures that had an animist worldview.  Everything actually had gender in these cultures because it was believed that spirits of one sort or another resided in all objects.  (The calling a boat &#8220;she&#8221; example a commenter brought up is kind of a holdover of this &#8212; boats are so enduring and possessing of distinct, almost personality-like qualities that this primitive urge within us comes forth even today.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stargzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stargzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gender in Latin seemed to make sense for the most part:  masculine, feminine, and neuter.  I had my first of two years of Latin waaaaayyyyy back in 9th grade, and my first of three years of French in 10th.  I was a bit befuddled at first by the lack of a neuter in French.  It was only much later, in middle adulthood, that I discovered that some French adults were indeed neutered, but that&#039;s a political discussion for another time ...

We still have gender in English with pronouns and posessive pronouns, even with inanimate objects.  Now, we know that a boat really isn&#039;t male or female, so it should be a neuter gender, but we always refer to a boat or ship in the feminine:  &quot;She&#039;s a good boat, and she&#039;ll always bring you back to port safely.&quot;  Animals do have gender, but if we don&#039;t know the gender of a specific individual we use the neuter:  &quot;The bear went back to its den&quot; but &quot;The bear charged us because she thought we were a danger to her cubs.&quot;  

Perhaps wisely (unlike me), the Good Doctor did not tread on the dangerous ground of Politically Correct Speech, and the abominations it dropped on the language in an attempt to rid English of the use of masculine words and the use of masculine terms when gender is not specified (inherited from Latin as I recall), replacing them with gender-neutral concoctions such as &quot;chairperson&quot; (Hey, isn&#039;t &quot;son&quot; a masculine word, too?  What do they propose to use instead of &quot;person?&quot;  Perdaughter?  Perchild?  &quot;Mr. Chairperchild, I move that we appoint a woman, I mean, a perchild of the feminine gender, as Chairperchild of the Committee for the Perpetuation of Language Correction.&quot;).  Now, I&#039;m as enlighted as any other middle-of-the-road Philistine, but whenever I saw &quot;Madame Chairwoman&quot; I was sorely tempted to drop the &quot;i&quot; out of the word, just to tweak the Devil&#039;s tail.  :-Þ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gender in Latin seemed to make sense for the most part:  masculine, feminine, and neuter.  I had my first of two years of Latin waaaaayyyyy back in 9th grade, and my first of three years of French in 10th.  I was a bit befuddled at first by the lack of a neuter in French.  It was only much later, in middle adulthood, that I discovered that some French adults were indeed neutered, but that&#8217;s a political discussion for another time &#8230;</p>
<p>We still have gender in English with pronouns and posessive pronouns, even with inanimate objects.  Now, we know that a boat really isn&#8217;t male or female, so it should be a neuter gender, but we always refer to a boat or ship in the feminine:  &#8220;She&#8217;s a good boat, and she&#8217;ll always bring you back to port safely.&#8221;  Animals do have gender, but if we don&#8217;t know the gender of a specific individual we use the neuter:  &#8220;The bear went back to its den&#8221; but &#8220;The bear charged us because she thought we were a danger to her cubs.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps wisely (unlike me), the Good Doctor did not tread on the dangerous ground of Politically Correct Speech, and the abominations it dropped on the language in an attempt to rid English of the use of masculine words and the use of masculine terms when gender is not specified (inherited from Latin as I recall), replacing them with gender-neutral concoctions such as &#8220;chairperson&#8221; (Hey, isn&#8217;t &#8220;son&#8221; a masculine word, too?  What do they propose to use instead of &#8220;person?&#8221;  Perdaughter?  Perchild?  &#8220;Mr. Chairperchild, I move that we appoint a woman, I mean, a perchild of the feminine gender, as Chairperchild of the Committee for the Perpetuation of Language Correction.&#8221;).  Now, I&#8217;m as enlighted as any other middle-of-the-road Philistine, but whenever I saw &#8220;Madame Chairwoman&#8221; I was sorely tempted to drop the &#8220;i&#8221; out of the word, just to tweak the Devil&#8217;s tail.  :-Þ</p>
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