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	<title>Comments on: Ye Old Shoppe Shops</title>
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		<title>By: Stargzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stargzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A THORNY SITUATION

I&#039;ve adopted the thorn for use as a smiley with the tongue sticking out.  On a WinDoze keyboard it&#039;s really easy to remember:  ALT+0222 using the numbers on the Numeric Keypad.  If you have a laptop without a numeric keypad, you&#039;ll have to turn on NumLock and use a funtion key to access the equivalent to the keypad { &amp;*( for 789, UIO for 456, JKL for 123. and M for 0}, so, with NumLock on, on a laptop hold down the ALT and Fn keys and type MKKK.  Þ

     :-Þ</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve adopted the thorn for use as a smiley with the tongue sticking out.  On a WinDoze keyboard it&#8217;s really easy to remember:  ALT+0222 using the numbers on the Numeric Keypad.  If you have a laptop without a numeric keypad, you&#8217;ll have to turn on NumLock and use a funtion key to access the equivalent to the keypad { &amp;*( for 789, UIO for 456, JKL for 123. and M for 0}, so, with NumLock on, on a laptop hold down the ALT and Fn keys and type MKKK.  Þ</p>
<p>     :-Þ</p>
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		<title>By: Brn</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-159358</link>
		<dc:creator>Brn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 14:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, actually, that is exactly what I said, when I said &#039;The y in “ye” actually would have been pronounced “th”&#039;, so I&#039;m not sure what you said is any different.  

And the article I cited explained that printers used y for thorn and that thorn is still used in Icelandic.  

And I still think that this is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, actually, that is exactly what I said, when I said &#8216;The y in “ye” actually would have been pronounced “th”&#8217;, so I&#8217;m not sure what you said is any different.  </p>
<p>And the article I cited explained that printers used y for thorn and that thorn is still used in Icelandic.  </p>
<p>And I still think that this is interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-159323</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, actually, when printers stopped using thorn (Þ), many substituted Y for it. That is where &quot;ye&quot; for &quot;the&quot; came from. Thorn was (and still is in Icelandic) pronounced [th], so pronouncing &quot;ye&quot; in &quot;Ye Olde Antique Shoppe&quot; as [yee] is actually an error. It should be pronounced [thee], just like &quot;the&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, actually, when printers stopped using thorn (Þ), many substituted Y for it. That is where &#8220;ye&#8221; for &#8220;the&#8221; came from. Thorn was (and still is in Icelandic) pronounced [th], so pronouncing &#8220;ye&#8221; in &#8220;Ye Olde Antique Shoppe&#8221; as [yee] is actually an error. It should be pronounced [thee], just like &#8220;the&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brn</title>
		<link>http://www.alphadictionary.com/blog/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-159322</link>
		<dc:creator>Brn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that that &quot;shoppe&quot; isn&#039;t interesting, but the &quot;ye&quot; because the phrase &quot;ye olde shoppe&quot; is pretty much the only remaining instance of the letter thorn in modern English.  The y in &quot;ye&quot; actually would have been pronounced &quot;th&quot;.  More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28letter%29#Modern_English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that that &#8220;shoppe&#8221; isn&#8217;t interesting, but the &#8220;ye&#8221; because the phrase &#8220;ye olde shoppe&#8221; is pretty much the only remaining instance of the letter thorn in modern English.  The y in &#8220;ye&#8221; actually would have been pronounced &#8220;th&#8221;.  More info here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28letter%29#Modern_English" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28letter%29#Modern_English</a>.</p>
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