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Postby Bailey » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:32 pm

ra·ma·da (r-mäd)
n. Southwestern U.S.
a. An open or semienclosed shelter roofed with brush or branches, designed especially to provide shade.
b. An open porch or breezeway.
2. An arbor or trellis made of twined branches.

[Spanish, from rama, branch, from Vulgar Latin *rma, from Latin rmus; see ramify.]
Regional Note: One of the words Spanish contributed to the English of the American Southwest is ramada, a term for an open shelter roofed with brush or branches, and by extension, an open porch or breezeway. Ramada can also mean an arbor of twined branches; this sense illustrates the derivation of the word from Spanish rama, meaning "branch," hence ramada, "arbor, mass of branches." The suffix -ada in Spanish denotes "a place characterized by (something)." Ramada might have remained a relatively obscure regional word were it not for its adoption in the name of a national chain of motels.

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I read somewhere that ramada originally came from ramadan the Arabic word for hot month, so maybe the Spanish conquistadores borrowed this, altered it [gasp!] and lent it to the American Indians, who gave it to us for the cooling porch of the SW.

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Postby Perry » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:14 am

The Muslim calendar is a lunar one, with no corrrections. Therefore the Ramadan holiday moves each year. Some years it takes place in the hottests months, others it shows up in January.
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Postby Stargzer » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:50 am

That's not to say that some Spaniard unfamiliar with the concept of a rotating Ramadan didn't experience a run of summertime Ramadans. To answer this one way or the other, someone with more ambition than I have would have to seek out the time frame for the introduction of this term and correlate it with the time of Ramadan in that particular era.

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Postby skinem » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:21 pm

I need to do some checking to see if there's any relation to "remuda".

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