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Postby Slava » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:37 pm

Okay, you're right, this is a very common word. However, do you know it's etymology?

Did you know that it originally meant "cunning," and other trickery? Rather interesting how it's been turned around, no?

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Postby beck123 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:26 am

When did we begin using this word as a diminutive "very?" I think that among adults, that is currently the more common meaning: "This is a pretty common word."

I can see the relationship to "fairly," which has the same "very" meaning, just as "fair" can mean "pretty" (well, it used to until recently - one never hears it anymore, except in poetry) in the sense of beauty.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:25 pm

Yes, that would be a qood answer to receive: when did
it become a diminutive meaning "very". - This is a pretty
small portion. It was a pretty short movie.
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Postby Audiendus » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:52 pm

Actually, "very" is an augmentative (i.e. it increases the intensity of an adjective). "Fairly" is a diminutive (it reduces the intensity). "Pretty" and "quite" can be either, depending on the context and/or tone of voice.

"Quite" is a curious word. When it precedes an emphatic word (e.g. amazing, incredible, extraordinary), it increases the emphasis. When it precedes an "all-or-nothing" word (e.g. dead, safe, harmless, right, finished, enough), it stresses the 'absolute' quality. Before other words, however (e.g. good, large, small, long, strong, clever, angry, strange), it reduces the intensity. Occasionally it is ambiguous - e.g. "It was already quite dark" could mean "fairly dark" or "completely dark".

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Postby Slava » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:53 pm

Well, this is turning out to be pretty interesting. As it seems we're all pretty intelligent, maybe we can come up with some answers pretty soon?

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Postby saparris » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:14 am

If you really want to see how language has changed over time, consider the terms pretty awful and awfully pretty, neither of which contains words that suggest the original meanings.

And then there's pretty penny.
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:55 pm

As in "that cost a pretty penny"?
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Postby saparris » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:13 pm

As in "that cost a pretty penny"?
Yes, as in "Nascar races cost a pretty penny--and are the route of all ovals."
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Postby LukeJavan8 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:17 pm

Giving a whole new meaning to 'going in circles'.
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