Whatcha Think?

Miscellaneous Other Topics.
brogine
Lexiterian
Posts: 124
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:41 pm

Whatcha Think?

Postby brogine » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:54 pm

About one hundred years ago, biologist* D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson
(On Growth and Form) wrote, “Everything is what it is because it got that way.” This seems to me the perfect exposition of the scientific, rationalist philosophy.
Now, I’m thinking that he deliberately used naive language to stress the fundamental and indisputable nature of the observation. I wonder if anyone will agree with me. (Always up for new experiences!)

* Amended: British mathematician, biologist, zoologist, university teacher, classical scholar and poet

User avatar
Slava
Grand Panjandrum
Posts: 6779
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:31 am
Location: Finger Lakes, NY

Re: Whatcha Think?

Postby Slava » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 am

I'll bite: while the statement is true to a point, it does miss the why of the 'got that way'. In other words, there's no cause for the because.
Life is like playing chess with chessmen who each have thoughts and feelings and motives of their own.

User avatar
Dr. Goodword
Site Admin
Posts: 6760
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:28 am
Location: Lewisburg, PA
Contact:

Re: Whatcha Think?

Postby Dr. Goodword » Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:12 am

I think is an amusingly simple way to say that everything develops.
• The Good Dr. Goodword

brogine
Lexiterian
Posts: 124
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:41 pm

Re: Whatcha Think?

Postby brogine » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:42 pm

I'll bite: while the statement is true to a point, it does miss the why of the 'got that way'. In other words, there's no cause for the because.
Ah, but science does not concern itself with ‘why’. Only the humble, but endlessly fascinating, ‘how’. Though many practitioners are believers, science per se does not admit of intent.

User avatar
Slava
Grand Panjandrum
Posts: 6779
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:31 am
Location: Finger Lakes, NY

Re: Whatcha Think?

Postby Slava » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:19 pm

I didn't mean the intent version of why, rather the how come version. Why did X happen? What caused it?
Life is like playing chess with chessmen who each have thoughts and feelings and motives of their own.

brogine
Lexiterian
Posts: 124
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:41 pm

Re: Whatcha Think?

Postby brogine » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:52 pm

I didn't mean the intent version of why, rather the how come version. Why did X happen? What caused it?
I get it. That’s how I interpret ‘why’. Maybe that’s an idiosyncrasy. Anyhoo, I think it’s accurate to say science always looks for the next-proximate cause. There being, in my view, and that of most scientists, no consciousness, ultimately. There are the laws of physics (those in this universe, anyway). And biological evolution. (Bless its vexatious little heart.)


Return to “Res Diversae”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests