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Ramshackle

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:21 pm
by Dr. Goodword

• ramshackle •


Pronunciation: ræm-shæk-êl • Hear it!

Part of Speech: Adjective

Meaning: Rickety, run-down, dilapidated.

Notes: This good word is another in our series of words that are not what they seem to be. It has nothing to do with shackling male sheep but rather refers to the state of repair in which buildings are sometimes found, e.g. 'a ramshackle cottage by the sea'. It is a lexical orphan without even a verb to its name and that, despite the fact that it started out its life as a verb.

In Play: Even though this word is most often associated with buildings, by no means is its metaphoric range limited to architectural objectives: "Given the ramshackle organization of his office, it is a wonder he can locate anything in it." You must know someone whose ramshackle appearance would by far overburden the epithet "casual".

Word History: Tammany Hall had less corruption than today's word has suffered over its history. It is a back-formation of ramshackled, a dialectal corruption of ranshackled, itself a corruption of ransackled, the past participle of ransackle "to ransack". This last word is the frequentative (indicating repeated activity) variant of Middle English ransaken "to pillage", which went on to become ransack. This verb was ultimately borrowed from Old Norse rannsaka "house search" comprising rann "house" + *saka "to search, seek." So it is no etymological accident that a ramshackle house looks as though it has been frequently ransacked by Vikings.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:21 pm
by Philip Hudson
Ramshackle is a word dear to my heart. Are you going to add sigoggelin next?

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:08 pm
by LukeJavan8
That's a new one to me Philip.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:18 am
by Philip Hudson
It is a noun used in Appalachia to mean very poorly constructed.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:04 pm
by Dr. Goodword
There was much discussion of this word back in 2013. I couldn't find anything but a definition on line and none in the "respectable" dictionaries, particularly no history or any explanation how it got up in the hills.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:15 pm
by Philip Hudson
The word was created in Appalachia. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHIJfbYhQFg

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:34 pm
by David Myer
And the English equivalent - jerry-rigged, or jerrybuilt.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:41 pm
by LukeJavan8
Thanks, Phil, for that very entertaining video.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:27 pm
by Philip Hudson
There is "jury rigged" which is different than a rigged jury. Then there is a certain American unnamed politician [so called] who thinks elections are rigged if he doesn't win.

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:15 am
by bnjtokyo
We have had "jury rig" as a word of the day twice now. Here's the link
https://www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/jury-rig

Re: Ramshackle

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:37 am
by David Myer
And here is the link to INCONDITE viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10459&p=53492&hilit=jerry#p53492, which apparently means the same thing as jury-rigged or jerry-built or ramshackled and whose discussion explores the jerry alternative (with some learned comments from bnjtokyo and George Kovac).