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Commensurate

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:04 pm
by Dr. Goodword

• commensurate •


Pronunciation: kê-men-sê-rêt, kê-men-shê-rêt • Hear it!

Part of Speech: Adjective

Meaning: Of the same or equal measure (size, length, proportion) as something else, as to receive recognition commensurate with our accomplishments.

Notes: Although today's Good Word is often used as a synonym of commensurable, the latter has a slightly different meaning: "reducible to a common measure" or, in mathematics, "reducible by the same quantity without a remainder". A foot and a yard are commensurable since both may be reduced in terms of inches (12 and 36, respectively). These two words suggest an origin in a verb, commensurate "to correspond with in measure or extent". Well, if you don't mind using words that went out of style in the 17th century, you may use this verb with impunity.

In Play: Here is a word with wide-spread applications around the house: "I don't feel that one martini is a commensurate reward for spending the entire afternoon mowing the lawn—missing the football game, yet". Not that you can't find uses for it around the office, too: "In my opinion, the current team leader's managerial skills are not commensurate with the position she holds."

Word History: Today's Good Word goes back to Latin commensuratus "equal", made up of com- "with" + mensura "measure". Mensura is a noun built out of mensus "measured", the past participle of the verb metiri "to measure". The N that comes and goes in the forms of this word is the Fickle N of Indo-European languages that we have mentioned before. The N is present in the Latin word for mensis "month", an ancient measure of time based on the phases of the moon. In fact, the same word came to Germanic languages with that very meaning: English moon, Dutch maan, and German Mond. French dropped the N in mensure "measure" before English borrowed it as measure. (Our gratitude to Bryan Goff for suggesting today's Good Word is commensurate with its considerable importance to us.)

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:23 pm
by Slava
I wonder what an economy where salaries were commensurate with the actual value of the work involved would look like.

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:04 pm
by Debbymoge
Slava,
Chaos

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:54 pm
by David Myer
Isn't commensuration sometimes used as a slightly pompous euphemism for salary or wages?

What commensuration can I expect if I accept this job?

My father spent much of his life considering when the ratio of effort to remuneration is optimised. I think he concluded after much research, that the answer was when the effort was zero

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:21 pm
by David Myer
Thinking further about this, I fear I am malapropiciously confused. I probably mean remuneration, not commensuration - although it does sort of fit.

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:36 pm
by Slava
Or could somebody have gotten confusticated and blended remuneration with compensation? :? With a dash of recompense for good measure.

Re: Commensurate

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:51 am
by David Myer
Yes, this is the problem with Latin based words. Too long. Let's get back to the Olde English.