irredentism

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irredentism

Postby Klimt » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:03 am

One who advocates the recovery of territory culturally or historically related to one's nation but now subject to a foreign government.

This is a great word for the week.
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Postby Perry » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:53 pm

What is the etymology? OED has nothing on this.
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Postby Stargzer » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:24 pm

Merriam-Webster:
irredenta

Main Entry: ir·re·den·ta
Variant(s): also ir·ri·den·ta \ˌir-i-ˈden-tə\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian Italia irredenta, literally, unredeemed Italy, Italian-speaking territory not incorporated in Italy
Date: 1914
: a territory historically or ethnically related to one political unit but under the political control of another

irredentism

Main Entry: ir·re·den·tism
Pronunciation: \-ˈden-ˌti-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1883
: a political principle or policy directed toward the incorporation of irredentas within the boundaries of their historically or ethnically related political unit
— ir·re·den·tist \-ˈden-tist\ noun or adjective
I can't get Systran to translate Italian irredenta. Dente is tooth, denti is teeth, and ridente is laughing, of which the first syllable reminds me of French rire - ris - risant, to laugh - laugh - laughing.
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Postby Cacasenno » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:56 am

Irredentism
Redeeming, ransoming , liberating movement

Stargzer, try with Systran by splitting so : Ir ---redenti ---smo

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Postby Stargzer » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:08 am

Nessun Dadi!

It's weird; it translates the English idiom literally into Italian, which I'm sure is not an Italian idom:

Eng: No dice => It: Nessun Dadi
It: Nessun Dadi => Eng: No dice

but translating the English idiom as if it were an Italian phrase it translates:

It: No dice => Eng: It does not say
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Postby Cacasenno » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:58 am

No dice

Being an idiomatic phrase you should have had responses such as:

Niente da fare
Non c'è trippa (per gatti)
Buco nell'acqua
È andata buca
etcetera
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Dadi= gambling dice (plural) or
Dadi= bolts

Complicated, innit?

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