“How could a holy and loving God who is in control of all things allow evil to exist?”
I’ve heard this question many times, but never knew there was a word which covered it, until now.
A theodicy is “a theological construct whose purpose is to answer this question. The word is a combination of Greek and Latin terms meaning ‘God’ and ‘Right’.
Now that I know there IS a word, I’d love to see Dr. Goodword’s take on it, so please add theodicy to the Word-of-the-Day queue.
Sardith
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Re: Theodicy
I'm fairly positive that both parts of theodicy are from Greek.
Theo (theos) - god + dicy (diké) - justice.
Latin god is deus.
Theo (theos) - god + dicy (diké) - justice.
Latin god is deus.
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Re: Theodicy
Leibnitz, who defined this as the best of all possible worlds, coined this word. Theodicy has always been a "hot topic" of Christian and anti-Christian theology. My simple theology is that even God can't do self-contradictory things. Hence, He cannot make people with free will and also a world free from the consequences of people's free will actions. As for why should God bother, I sometimes wonder that myself.
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By the by, couldn't one take this as a misspelling of one of Homer's works? Didn't he write both the Iliad and Theodicy?
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Re: Theodicy
Another oddity lurks. In light of the Zimmerman trial, half the country thinks justice is indeed dicy.
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^^Good joke, Slava.
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Wow, I wish I'd come up with that one. Kudos!Another oddity lurks. In light of the Zimmerman trial, half the country thinks justice is indeed dicy.
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Re: Theodicy
Slava,
I understand what you are saying about the Greek-Greek, but why does the Merriam-Webster say:
Origin of THEODICY
modification of French théodicée, from théo- the- (from Latin theo-) + Greek dikē judgment, right — more at diction
First Known Use: 1797
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I understand what you are saying about the Greek-Greek, but why does the Merriam-Webster say:
Origin of THEODICY
modification of French théodicée, from théo- the- (from Latin theo-) + Greek dikē judgment, right — more at diction
First Known Use: 1797
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Sardith
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Re: Theodicy
I think Latin borrowed theus from the Greek, though deus was the normal term. I'm among those who think Rome only conquered Greece on the battle field, while the Greek culture manhandled the Latinate. Note the New Testament was written in Greek because it was more universally known than Latin, even though Rome "ruled the world."
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Re: Theodicy
It seems we have a conflict in our sources.
I have found a couple of sources that start off saying it's from New Latin, but then they say that that comes from Greek.
Merriam-Webster is the only site that makes a Latin claim.
Also, would someone writing in the early 18th century have made up a two-language word?
Wiktionary even uses the Greek: from the Ancient Greek θεός (theos, “god”) + δίκη (dikē, “justice”).1799, from French théodicée, title of a work by Leibniz, from Greek theos "god" (see Thea) + dike "judgment, justice, usage, custom" (cognate with Latin dicere "to show, tell;"
I have found a couple of sources that start off saying it's from New Latin, but then they say that that comes from Greek.
Merriam-Webster is the only site that makes a Latin claim.
Also, would someone writing in the early 18th century have made up a two-language word?
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Re: Theodicy
I am not disputing you, Slava, but merely asking how this contradiction might have occurred.
If you're saying that Merriam-Webster just had a screw loose on this one, I can accept that, knowing that even sources can be dicy every once in a while.
Sorry about that,
Sardith
If you're saying that Merriam-Webster just had a screw loose on this one, I can accept that, knowing that even sources can be dicy every once in a while.
Sorry about that,
Sardith
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Re: Theodicy
Sorry about that, too. I didn't mean to imply that I was questioning you. I meant only that our sources were at odds.
E-mail and Internet talk sure can be tricky, eh?
E-mail and Internet talk sure can be tricky, eh?
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Re: Theodicy
Oh Slava, no worries.
“The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.”
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